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RE: Sarah Palin - Africa is a country - 11/7/2008 7:11:24 PM
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FreddieD
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I think it's important to note that these aren't quotes, they are reports of staffers that are now scrambling to cover their rears now that the campign has failed.
Never trust a rat fleeing a sinking ship.
Don't you mean never trust anyone other than those who have nothing but praise for Palin?
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RE: Sarah Palin - Africa is a country - 11/7/2008 7:15:54 PM
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ORIGINAL: Jhud
I think it's important to note that these aren't quotes, they are reports of staffers that are now scrambling to cover their rears now that the campign has failed.
Never trust a rat fleeing a sinking ship.
Don't you mean never trust anyone other than those who have nothing but praise for Palin?
FreddieD
... or never have nothing but scorn for someone who continually post such childish statements.
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RE: Sarah Palin - Africa is a country - 11/7/2008 7:26:03 PM
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FreddieD
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... or never have nothing but scorn for someone who continually post such childish statements.
Do you mean me?
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RE: Sarah Palin - Africa is a country - 11/7/2008 7:36:46 PM
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If it truly was South Africa mistaken for "southern Africa," then I can understand the blunder.
It is ironic, though, how often I hear people talk about Africa as one country, as in something like, "The people were from France, Spain, Russia, and Africa." 
One reason for that may be that most people from Africa will identify themselves as Africans first and then, if probed for more information, will identify with their individual nation. I helped manage an apartment complex a few years ago and about 75% of our residents were from African nations.
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RE: Sarah Palin - Africa is a country - 11/7/2008 8:03:37 PM
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Frankly i think all of this is just the Obama camp continuing to try to keep the public from looking at him and Biden too closely. The two of them have such a long list of "gaffes" that i am not sure how anyone in their right mind who supported them would keep calling attention to anyone's misspoken comments lest the multitude from the Obama/Biden pair be continuously brought up.
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RE: Sarah Palin - Africa is a country - 11/7/2008 8:15:46 PM
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If it truly was South Africa mistaken for "southern Africa," then I can understand the blunder.
It is ironic, though, how often I hear people talk about Africa as one country, as in something like, "The people were from France, Spain, Russia, and Africa."
One reason for that may be that most people from Africa will identify themselves as Africans first and then, if probed for more information, will identify with their individual nation. I helped manage an apartment complex a few years ago and about 75% of our residents were from African nations.
True. African-Americans do that too though... I rarely hear one of my friends refer to themselves by the African nation they come from, probably because they don't know. Plus, to many, most of Africa is made up of black people. So, to them, just giving "Africa" is sufficient for one to understand they mean black. Probably clear as mud.
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RE: Sarah Palin - Africa is a country - 11/7/2008 8:24:40 PM
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Dancre
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About Sarah, I followed the NRO link and it turns out:
Apparently she did not grasp that "South Africa" was not the same thing as "southern Africa." But there a lot of possible innocent explanations for a mistake like that.
personally I would think anyone could make that mistake. I could make that mistake. I would call South Africa, southern Africa.
It sounds like some folks are trying to make her sound stupid to keep her from running for president. That I don't understand. Why try to bring her down if she so harmless? Why not just let her go, run for the president's office and destroy herself in the process if she's so incompetent? Why twist something so innocent to make her seem stupid?? MMM . . . . It seems like someone is afraid of something. Maybe someone saw Sarah COULD do the job, so make everyone think she's an idiot. Get everyone to think Sarah can't pick her own nose without help, so you wouldn't want to vote for the village idiot. Fortunately, I'm not that stupid to fall for something like that. Makes me wonder. I'm hoping she'll run for the presidency, cause someone's shaking in their boots. mmmm . . . .
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RE: Sarah Palin - Africa is a country - 11/7/2008 8:34:00 PM
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Apparently she did not grasp that "South Africa" was not the same thing as "southern Africa." But there a lot of possible innocent explanations for a mistake like that.
Well that is just a wee bit different than mistaking Africa as a continent isn't it? She has gone back to the frozen nawth as far as I know but obviously someone finds her important enough that they continue to dig up the dirt. I guess one shouldn't cross Obama or leave it open to interpretation that they may in the future oppose him.
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RE: Sarah Palin - Africa is a country - 11/7/2008 9:08:07 PM
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LOL!! Don't cross him. Remember what happened to Joe the plumber. Soon there will be a new TOS on Crosswalk.com. Do not criticise the newly elected President Obama. All posts that state negative comments regarding the newly elected president will be deleted and if the poster does not comply, he or she will no longer be allowed to post on Crosswalk.com. The poster's real name and information will be handed over to Homeland Security.
But in all honestly, I wonder if Fritz will one day get an email that says, you censure what folks say about the president. God help us all!!!
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Apparently she did not grasp that "South Africa" was not the same thing as "southern Africa." But there a lot of possible innocent explanations for a mistake like that.
Well that is just a wee bit different than mistaking Africa as a continent isn't it? She has gone back to the frozen nawth as far as I know but obviously someone finds her important enough that they continue to dig up the dirt. I guess one shouldn't cross Obama or leave it open to interpretation that they may in the future oppose him.
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RE: Sarah Palin - Africa is a country - 11/8/2008 5:36:49 AM
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ManimalX,
re: Tell that to the rally crowds that were bigger
than the crowds for Obama, McCain, or Biden.
No, not true, sorry. I have a friend who works
for these campaigns bringing in sign twirlers, etc.
I'm told that Palin's record crowd wasn't 60,000
but 25,000 per fire marshalls. That's an Obama low
drawing 150,000 in Missouri, 75,000 in Portland, largest
crowd in NM history of 50,000. Then 80,000 in Cleveland,
240,000 Chicago, 150,000 Colorado, and they estimated
500,000 in Berlin, etc. I had to listen to such numbers ALL
the time from her due to an historic event I had produced.
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RE: Sarah Palin - Africa is a country - 11/8/2008 5:42:36 AM
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I'm a lefty wacko to be sure, but I give her a pass......The USA is a country. "America" is not a country but a continent. We call the USA "America" wrongly.
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RE: Sarah Palin - Africa is a country - 11/8/2008 6:42:44 AM
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I happened to catch the piece on Fox as it was first reported. McCain was the media's pick for the GOP. He's a moderate republican the media can live with. But, he's still a republican, so get in their and crucify him once he runs against a democrat. But, then he picks Sarah Palin. A true conservative who fired up the base. The media can't have a true conservative so, they set out to destroy her. And within the McCain campaign, the moderates (left leaning RINO's) ran to the media to try and destroy Palin.
It's too bad the smear tactics the left accused the right of doing haven't ended with the election.
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RE: Sarah Palin - Africa is a country - 11/8/2008 8:53:08 AM
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Besides that, I think it's important to point out that what the Republican base that is still blind enough to give Bush 43 whatever positive approval he has left believe about Palin is, in all likelihood, deeply at odds with what other Americans... most Americans believe. I think Palin refers to this majority as "fake Americans".
That majority is made up of what some of us like to call the LIVs. Those that have no idea what the threat is against the U.S. and were lulled asleep by a do nothing Clinton Presidency that sat idle under 3 attacks. The ABC movie "Path to 9-11" that Clinton tried to stop from being aired proved this clearly. Most americans have not seen this or bother thinking about these things. To most Americans, changing presidents is something tantemount to changing cars or laundry detergents and it's no deeper than that.
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RE: Sarah Palin - Africa is a country - 11/8/2008 9:03:46 AM
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Palin kept McCain from a Mondale like defeat. This is about 2012.
100% TRUE.
I was talking with my older sister last night and we both agreed as conservative Christians that we initially saw very little worth voting for with McCain before hand. I was considering not voting even. Palin (or any other true conservative would have) made the difference.
The attacks were anonymous and FOX has no business triping this type of who-knows-if-it's-true-or-not-true information cheap shot, especially when BO's got such huge passes. THis is why I don't watch Network news anymore and now will watch FOX or visit their website less. I'll stick to the independant internet sources using both conservative and liberal sources to weed the truth out.
She embodied Teddy Roosevelt's famous quote: "When you are asked if you can do a job, tell 'em, 'Certainly I can!' Then get busy and find out how to do it." which I have used all my life with success as well. She was a proven person of action and had more ability that Jeopardy knowledge. Knowledge can always be tacked on later, ability, character, and talent cannot be.
Even so, any lack of knowledge she had was not dangerous as Matt Damon types portrayed it to be imo.
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RE: Sarah Palin - Africa is a country - 11/8/2008 10:10:29 AM
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Wow tar and feather sarah, so maybe it was a slip also. Obama made many slips, I think earthless did the links. The left is so afraid of sarah, it is funny watching them. I heard on the " E" channel them call her a snow S*****, a very derogatory word for a woman's anatomy.
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RE: Sarah Palin - Africa is a country - 11/8/2008 11:34:13 AM
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Jhud
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Don't you mean never trust anyone other than those who have nothing but praise for Palin?
No, it means as someone who has actually worked on a campaign don't trust paid staffers who are looking to make excuses so they can get the next political gig.
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RE: Sarah Palin - Africa is a country - 11/8/2008 11:58:30 AM
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Anonymous comments like this are the height of gutlessness. Who would want this bunch of cowards working for you on any campaign in the future?
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RE: Sarah Palin - Africa is a country - 11/8/2008 1:25:23 PM
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Dancre,
Re: Why try to bring her down if she so harmless?
Why not just let her go, run for the president's
office and destroy herself in the process if she's
so incompetent? Why twist something so innocent
to make her seem stupid?? MMM . . . . It seems
like someone is afraid of something. Maybe someone
saw Sarah COULD do the job
There were at least 18 million Hillary supporters
which included a great many women who wanted
a female on the ticket, though female wasn't the
'only' qualification in their mind. They were 'highly'
disapproval of Obama. They even formed groups
via websites, had meetings, etc. to support McCain.
I followed them as many volunteered for McCain.
THEN, McCain chose Palin as his VP, and they went
to hear her often and were enthusiastic at the RNC.
The more they heard her, the more they drifted
over to Obama and volunteered. They weren't afraid
of something, as you said. They were convinced, after
close scrutiny, that Palin was somehow NOT qualified.
We're not talking here about what Obama or the media
did. This was an assessment of Palin up close. This
even included an African American superdelegate
and powerful politician from Texas who was very
close to Hillary. She was appalled at Palin's choice
and possibility at potentially becoming president.
Thus, Obama became her choice at the last minute.
I know a politician in Texas who knew her well. They
met Palin and were horrified being convinced that she
is a candidate that really thought Africa was a country
besides other things she didn't have a clue about though
Palin learned speeches well and good in front of camera
due to her television experience. I liked Palin too, and
saw the same thing confirming Obama was chosen. All
creation would participate like Palin's scary choice.
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RE: Sarah Palin - Africa is a country - 11/8/2008 1:43:12 PM
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Wow tar and feather sarah, so maybe it was a slip also. Obama made many slips, I think earthless did the links. The left is so afraid of sarah, it is funny watching them.
I don't think the left is afraid of Sarah Palin. I think they don't like her, but they're not afraid of her. If you want to get into it, it was Fox news that put out this report and Republican campaign advisers that made the statements in the first place - both are hardly paragons of leftist thought. This is the right (or some small subset of it) attacking her, not the left. What I saw of CNN's coverage of this was EXTREMELY critical of the advisers making these claims.
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RE: Sarah Palin - Africa is a country - 11/8/2008 3:03:05 PM
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Here is a bit from Rich Lowry at National Review:
I talked to Steve Biegun, the former Bush NSC aid who briefed Sarah Palin on foreign policy, and he considers the leaks against her on the international stuff "absurd."
He says there's no way she didn't know Africa was a continent, and whoever is saying she didn't must be distorting "a fumble of words." He talked to her about all manner of issues relating to Africa, from failed states to the Sudan. She was aware from the beginning of the conflict in Darfur, which is followed closely in evangelical churches, and was aware of Clinton's AIDS initiative. That basically makes it impossible that she thought all of Africa was a country.
On not knowing what countries are in NAFTA, Biegun was part of the conversation that led to that accusation and it convinces him "somebody is acting with a high degree of maliciousness." He was briefing Palin before a Univision interview, and talking to her about trade issues. He rolled through NAFTA, CAFTA, and the Colombia FTA. As he talked, people were coming in and out of the room, handing Palin things, etc. She was distracted from what Biegun was saying, and said, roughly, "Ok, who's in NAFTA, what's the deal with CAFTA, what's up the FTA?"—her way, Biegun says, of saying "rack them and stack them," begin again from the start. "Somebody is taking a conversation and twisting it maliciously," he says.
In general, according to Beigun, Palin had a steep learning curve on foreign issues, about what you would expect from a governor. But she has "great instincts and great core values," and is "an instinctive internationalist." The stories against her are being "fed by an unnamed source who is allowed by the press to make ad hominem attacks on background." Biegun, who spent dozens and dozens of hours briefing Palin on these issues, is happy to defend her, on the record, under his own name.
Reminds me of that Proverb, 'One man sounds right until a second answers him'
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RE: Sarah Palin - Africa is a country - 11/8/2008 3:20:22 PM
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Oh, the left has tried to destroy her ever since the convention. Fox is much more balanced than CNN, and Anderson Cooper. They were declared that by an independent agency.
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Wow tar and feather sarah, so maybe it was a slip also. Obama made many slips, I think earthless did the links. The left is so afraid of sarah, it is funny watching them.
I don't think the left is afraid of Sarah Palin. I think they don't like her, but they're not afraid of her. If you want to get into it, it was Fox news that put out this report and Republican campaign advisers that made the statements in the first place - both are hardly paragons of leftist thought. This is the right (or some small subset of it) attacking her, not the left. What I saw of CNN's coverage of this was EXTREMELY critical of the advisers making these claims.
-Dan.
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RE: Sarah Palin - Africa is a country - 11/8/2008 4:53:39 PM
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Dancre,
Re: Why try to bring her down if she so harmless?
Why not just let her go, run for the president's
office and destroy herself in the process if she's
so incompetent? Why twist something so innocent
to make her seem stupid?? MMM . . . . It seems
like someone is afraid of something. Maybe someone
saw Sarah COULD do the job
There were at least 18 million Hillary supporters
which included a great many women who wanted
a female on the ticket, though female wasn't the
'only' qualification in their mind. They were 'highly'
disapproval of Obama. They even formed groups
via websites, had meetings, etc. to support McCain.
I followed them as many volunteered for McCain.
THEN, McCain chose Palin as his VP, and they went
to hear her often and were enthusiastic at the RNC.
The more they heard her, the more they drifted
over to Obama and volunteered. They weren't afraid
of something, as you said. They were convinced, after
close scrutiny, that Palin was somehow NOT qualified.
We're not talking here about what Obama or the media
did. This was an assessment of Palin up close. This
even included an African American superdelegate
and powerful politician from Texas who was very
close to Hillary. She was appalled at Palin's choice
and possibility at potentially becoming president.
Thus, Obama became her choice at the last minute.
I know a politician in Texas who knew her well. They
met Palin and were horrified being convinced that she
is a candidate that really thought Africa was a country
besides other things she didn't have a clue about though
Palin learned speeches well and good in front of camera
due to her television experience. I liked Palin too, and
saw the same thing confirming Obama was chosen. All
creation would participate like Palin's scary choice.
I believe that a lot of Hilary supporters were temporarily angry that Obama won the nomination. They came back to Obama because Palin believes in "life" and is a devout Christian. She lives her values and convictions. The feminists hated her for those reasons also.
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RE: Sarah Palin - Africa is a country - 11/8/2008 4:55:37 PM
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zamdad
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To most Americans, changing presidents is something tantemount to changing cars or laundry detergents and it's no deeper than that.
How true! As I have discussed the election with others, I am amazed at the lack of thought people put into the decisions they are going to make. As a nation, we are so spoon fed by our media that we go wherever they take us. And we wonder why we, the church, have litle to no influence on the culture? When we're so busy watching/listening to/reading what our media wants us to believe, who has time to think?
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RE: Sarah Palin - Africa is a country - 11/8/2008 5:17:03 PM
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he probably meant 47. before this speech, he probably worked all day, and is tired and prone to mistakes.
and 47 would make sense, since he said he had one state left, and couldn't go to alaska or hawaii. those would be the other three states.
3+47(not 57)=50 states.
Saw this in the comments section of the Obama 57 states video. I think it's a plausible reason....of course, he could just be wrong too. It'd be surprising to think he really didn't know the U.S. had 50 states. ...In that case, it'd be just as bad as Palin saying Africa was a country.
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