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What about Condi Rice?

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"Some on the left will say our electoral losses are a repudiation of our principles of lower taxes, smaller government and individual liberty," wrote Sanford in an op-ed piece for CNN.com. "But Tuesday was not in fact a rejection of those principles -- it was a rejection of Republicans' failure to live up to those principles."

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Here's a list of the Wash Post's ten GOPer's to keep track of in the coming years. I personally like what Mark Sanford has had to say,

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"Some on the left will say our electoral losses are a repudiation of our principles of lower taxes, smaller government and individual liberty," wrote Sanford in an op-ed piece for CNN.com. "But Tuesday was not in fact a rejection of those principles -- it was a rejection of Republicans' failure to live up to those principles."

That he has "rubbed the party establishment wrong" isn't a negative IMO, it is a huge PLUS.

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I really don't know much about this guy Jindal, and having him as number one is a bit disconcerting to me, and throws the whole list into question, because I'm wondering just what or who is behind this guy. I've seen his name in other places recently, and I'm curious about why all the hubbub over him. After all, when people look at a list like this, they typically will only remember the number one pick. I'm generally mistrustful of names popping up to the top of a list like this from seemingly nowhere.

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In 1995 Republican U.S. Representative Jim McCrery (for whom Jindal had once worked as a summer intern) introduced Jindal to Republican Governor Mike Foster.[8] In 1996 Foster appointed Jindal to be secretary of the Louisiana Department of Health and Hospitals, an agency which then represented about 40 percent of the state budget. During his tenure as secretary, Louisiana's Medicaid program went from bankruptcy with a $400 million deficit into three years of surpluses totaling $220 million. Jindal was criticized during the 2007 campaign by the Louisiana AFL-CIO for having closed some local clinics to balance the budget.[9] In 1998, Jindal was appointed executive director of the National Bipartisan Commission on the Future of Medicare, a 17-member panel charged with devising plans to reform Medicare.

In 1999, at the request of the Louisiana Governor's Office and the Louisiana State Legislature, Jindal volunteered his time to study how Louisiana might use its $4.4 billion tobacco settlement. In that same year Jindal was appointed to become the youngest-ever president of the University of Louisiana System. In March 2001 he was nominated by President George W. Bush to be Assistant Secretary of Health and Human Services for Planning and Evaluation.[10] He was later unanimously confirmed by a bipartisan vote of the United States Senate and began serving on July 9, 2001. In that position, he served as the principal policy advisor to the Secretary of Health and Human Services.[11] He resigned from that post on February 21, 2003, to return to Louisiana and run for governor.[12]

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He didn't pop up from nowhere. He's been around in public service for over 10 years. around in public service for over 10 years. He went through some major mud slinging from the very nasty Louisiana Democratic Party in two gubernatorial elections. There isn't much left to dig up in the vetting process.

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In 1995 Republican U.S. Representative Jim McCrery (for whom Jindal had once worked as a summer intern) introduced Jindal to Republican Governor Mike Foster.[8] In 1996 Foster appointed Jindal to be secretary of the Louisiana Department of Health and Hospitals, an agency which then represented about 40 percent of the state budget. During his tenure as secretary, Louisiana's Medicaid program went from bankruptcy with a $400 million deficit into three years of surpluses totaling $220 million. Jindal was criticized during the 2007 campaign by the Louisiana AFL-CIO for having closed some local clinics to balance the budget.[9] In 1998, Jindal was appointed executive director of the National Bipartisan Commission on the Future of Medicare, a 17-member panel charged with devising plans to reform Medicare.

In 1999, at the request of the Louisiana Governor's Office and the Louisiana State Legislature, Jindal volunteered his time to study how Louisiana might use its $4.4 billion tobacco settlement. In that same year Jindal was appointed to become the youngest-ever president of the University of Louisiana System. In March 2001 he was nominated by President George W. Bush to be Assistant Secretary of Health and Human Services for Planning and Evaluation.[10] He was later unanimously confirmed by a bipartisan vote of the United States Senate and began serving on July 9, 2001. In that position, he served as the principal policy advisor to the Secretary of Health and Human Services.[11] He resigned from that post on February 21, 2003, to return to Louisiana and run for governor.[12]

Just yesterday this is what he's done to deal with the impending budget deficit due to the crashing oil prices. He's just getting warmed up on the deficit issue.

Bobby on Guns

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Thanks, Stephanie. He's new to me, and again - top of the list? Anyway, looks like the budget decision he made was good (hiring freeze), but we'll see if he gets in line with other states looking for bailout dollars. Regarding guns, I like his talk, but he said in the youtube that he sponsored a bill in Congress - no idea what that was or what it might actually do. As for his tenure at all the heath agencies, wonder what he did if anything to work to eliminate this unconstitutional government handout program (government intervention and regulation is the primary reason for high health care costs these days). I'd also be interested to know exactly how he brought the state agency from red to black. Doesn't necessarily correlate that a fiscally conservative approach was utilized. All in all, looks like he's a good manager and speaker, but like I said, gotta know more, and surprised at the #1 spot.

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Jindal also was head of Louisiana's Department of Health and Hospitals. The department of 13,000 employees was facing a $ 1 billion deficit with Medicaid -- a public health program for low income people -- risking bankruptcy. But within a year of being hired in 1996, he produced a budget surplus of nearly $ 170 million.

Governor Mike Foster of Louisiana picked Jindal as the department's chief after he read a paper written by the young man that outlined solutions to the state's bloated health program. At that time, Foster remarked, "The appointment is a bit unorthodox due to his young age, but I am pleased to find such an exceptionally talented secretary."

"We moved Medicaid from the verge of bankruptcy to stable ground for the first time in many years," said Jindal.

During his tenure at the Department of Health and Hospitals, he revitalized Louisiana's Medicaid program by rescuing it from a $ 400 million deficit; posting three consecutive budget surpluses; lowering Medicaid spending three years in a row; and, establishing nationally recognized programs.

In addition, he was able to produce positive health outcomes while controlling costs. For example, even though the department's budget was cut by 25 per cent and 1,000 employees were reduced, Louisiana moved from 37th to the third best state in health screenings for children. It also increased its childhood immunizations from 50 per cent to nearly 90 per cent and offered new and expanded services to the elderly and disabled.

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At a time when 9-1-1 was non-existent and law enforcement was stressed with search and rescue missions, law-abiding citizens of New Orleans were left to the mercy of roving looters, robbers and thugs. This breakdown of civil order demonstrated the importance of our Right to Keep and Bear Arms and became a proving ground for what American gun owners have long feared: the day government bureaucrats would use a state of emergency to trample on the Second Amendment.

Vowing that such a travesty would never occur again, NRA made passage of legislation to prohibit federal, state and local authorities from confiscating lawfully owned firearms during declared states of emergency our top national priority. Last year, Louisiana Congressman Bobby Jindal, horrified by what he had seen in the wake of Katrina, introduced the "Disaster Recovery Personal Protection Act" H.R. 5013 in the U.S. House of Representatives. H.R. 5013 overwhelmingly passed the House on July 25, 2006 with a broad bi-partisan margin of 322-99. Senator David Vitter (R-La) introduced the Senate version of the bill, a version of which passed the U.S. Senate by 84-16, the largest margin of victory for a NRA-backed measure.

On October 4, 2006, President Bush signed this legislation into law. This law now ensures that state and local governments can't disarm law-abiding gun owners during a declared state of emergency.

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I don't know why Evangelicals didn't back Huckabee other than the Southern states. I think he would have been a stronger candidate for conservative values.

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Steph, your quote regarding Jindal's tenure is as I stated - he's a good manager, but what's his position with regard to this entitlement program fundamentally? Where's his recommendation or plan to phase out Medicaid altogether? This is what I would expect a fiscally conservative Republican to do, not just be an efficient bureaucrat. Why, if they made me Secretary of Health Services,..., watch out.

And I'm not certain why his gun law was needed in the first place. Was there another law on the books that restricted the 2nd Amendment during times of emergency that should've been repealed? Almost seems like a grandstanding move. Oh, and were there any repercussions to the local law enforcement folks who completely abridged the 2nd Amendment during the Katrina incidents?

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Issues, voting record, philosophy, top my list, regardless of the person.

Give me:
fiscal conservatism
shrink federal government to constitutional limits
stay out of my religion, and let me freely exercise it
low taxes
reduced spending
pro-life
strong national defense
protect individual liberty
states' rights
free market

and I'll vote for the man or woman.

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I don't know why Evangelicals didn't back Huckabee other than the Southern states. I think he would have been a stronger candidate for conservative values.

Ever hear the nickname "Tax Hike Mike"?

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If conservatives want to win in 2012, we have to start now.

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So, we'll probably get the usual suspects -- Palin, Romney, the Huckster, and Giuliani for sure -- and a couple of hard-right figures like Tancredo (but not him) and maybe one or two governors may chance their arm.

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I don't know why Evangelicals didn't back Huckabee other than the Southern states. I think he would have been a stronger candidate for conservative values.

I'm very interested in what Jindal has to offer. He's young, pro-life, and seems to be taking Louisiana in a positive direction post-Katrina.

Where is J.C. Watts anyway?

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Palin is a wash. She's done more damage to herself and cost McCain the election.

I personally was hoping for Huckabee to be the Republican candidate or as VP. I ended up voting for Alan Keyes, who had to go Independent because he got no love from the RP. He actually gave Obama run for his money in Chicago.

Jindal sounds promising as well...thanks for the link.

Barracuda may well flame out. She needs to do a low-key "rebranding". As a "maverick", she would have the same problems McCain had. Meaning, the party machine wouldn't really get behind her.

Jindal can learn a lot from President-elect on how to build an organization.

Keyes is just plain crazy and needs to go someplace far away with Ralph Nader and L. Ron Paul.

What makes Keyes "crazy"?

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I don't know why Evangelicals didn't back Huckabee other than the Southern states. I think he would have been a stronger candidate for conservative values.

I'm very interested in what Jindal has to offer. He's young, pro-life, and seems to be taking Louisiana in a positive direction post-Katrina.

Where is J.C. Watts anyway?

J.C. Watts is an ex- U. S. Representitve from Oklahoma. he is black, intellegent, seriously conservitive, and stepped down from politics for a spell to continuie his ministry as a Pastor here in Oklahoma. He is still plenty politically involved.

The media painted Huckabee as a wild eyed right wing fanatical evangelicas; give me a break. He is a Sourthern Baptist for God's sake. With more exposure as on his show on Fox and other apprarances I believe the true image of a man with fiscal and social conservative ideas and a history of running a state as govenor really well will come out.

I do not know if Jindal will have had enough exposure by the next election, but we will just have to see.

Thanks
RC

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Palin is a wash. She's done more damage to herself and cost McCain the election.

I personally was hoping for Huckabee to be the Republican candidate or as VP. I ended up voting for Alan Keyes, who had to go Independent because he got no love from the RP. He actually gave Obama run for his money in Chicago.

Jindal sounds promising as well...thanks for the link.

Barracuda may well flame out. She needs to do a low-key "rebranding". As a "maverick", she would have the same problems McCain had. Meaning, the party machine wouldn't really get behind her.

Jindal can learn a lot from President-elect on how to build an organization.

Keyes is just plain crazy and needs to go someplace far away with Ralph Nader and L. Ron Paul.

What makes Keyes "crazy"?

He actually stands for something...

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But obama is a terrorist.

OH, Stop it! He is NOT a terrorist. Good grief. That is an awful lie.

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I don't think it's going to matter who the GOP runs in four years. Barring a massive screw-up, Obama is going to go the full eight years.