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RE: Republican Candidate for 2012? - 12/2/2008 11:46:44 AM
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Lapidoth
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ORIGINAL: rcjames Mike Huckabee, J.C. Watts, or Sarah Palin. Thanks RC Well, any one of these will get at least two votes......lol. I'd vote for Mike, a Baptist. I'd vote for J.C., a black man. I'd vote for Sarah, a woman. I'm not racial, I just won't vote for a full blown liberal. The problem with the Republican party today is it is being taken over by the liberals just like the Democrat party has been. It still comes down to "right" and "wrong." Too bad, most 'christians' don't know the difference. They will call bad good, and good bad. Well, it appears to be this generation.
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RE: Republican Candidate for 2012? - 12/2/2008 11:47:45 AM
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ORIGINAL: mavrick Issues, voting record, philosophy, top my list, regardless of the person. Give me: fiscal conservatism shrink federal government to constitutional limits stay out of my religion, and let me freely exercise it low taxes reduced spending pro-life strong national defense protect individual liberty states' rights free market and I'll vote for the man or woman. Yep...............that's my litmus test too.
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RE: Republican Candidate for 2012? - 12/2/2008 1:22:32 PM
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ORIGINAL: Lapidoth quote:
ORIGINAL: mavrick Issues, voting record, philosophy, top my list, regardless of the person. Give me: fiscal conservatism shrink federal government to constitutional limits stay out of my religion, and let me freely exercise it low taxes reduced spending pro-life strong national defense protect individual liberty states' rights free market and I'll vote for the man or woman. Yep...............that's my litmus test too. Another one expecting to not vote in '12, I see.
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RE: Republican Candidate for 2012? - 12/2/2008 1:25:57 PM
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ORIGINAL: cow451 quote:
ORIGINAL: Lapidoth quote:
ORIGINAL: mavrick Issues, voting record, philosophy, top my list, regardless of the person. Give me: fiscal conservatism shrink federal government to constitutional limits stay out of my religion, and let me freely exercise it low taxes reduced spending pro-life strong national defense protect individual liberty states' rights free market and I'll vote for the man or woman. Yep...............that's my litmus test too. Another one expecting to not vote in '12, I see. ROFL.............................I always exercise my right to vote. It would just be nice to vote for a truly good candidate instead of voting for the least of two evils. If for no other reason, I vote so I have the right to complain. I won't listen to someone complaining about either party if they don't bother to get involved in the process.
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RE: Republican Candidate for 2012? - 12/3/2008 8:42:58 AM
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ORIGINAL: cow451 Another one expecting to not vote in '12, I see. But will the vote do any good; is not the world supposed to end on December 21, 2012? Thanks RC
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RE: Republican Candidate for 2012? - 12/3/2008 5:05:36 PM
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ORIGINAL: Lapidoth quote:
ORIGINAL: mavrick Issues, voting record, philosophy, top my list, regardless of the person. Give me: fiscal conservatism shrink federal government to constitutional limits stay out of my religion, and let me freely exercise it low taxes reduced spending pro-life strong national defense protect individual liberty states' rights free market and I'll vote for the man or woman. Yep...............that's my litmus test too. Ditto.
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RE: Republican Candidate for 2012? - 12/3/2008 9:15:37 PM
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I don't think Jindal can get elected nationally while he supports Intelligent Design being taught in the schools. I think it was one of the reasons Palin was turned on after her honeymoon period. And I think it was one of the reasons Huckabee was beaten by McCain. That stuff might win you some southern red states but nationally it's not taken seriously.
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RE: Republican Candidate for 2012? - 12/3/2008 9:25:35 PM
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ORIGINAL: mavrick Issues, voting record, philosophy, top my list, regardless of the person. Give me: fiscal conservatism shrink federal government to constitutional limits stay out of my religion, and let me freely exercise it low taxes reduced spending pro-life strong national defense protect individual liberty states' rights free market and I'll vote for the man or woman. Interesting that "stay out of my religion and let me freely exercise" and "protect individual liberty" should have been part of the same list. How would you have voted on Prop 8?
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RE: Republican Candidate for 2012? - 12/4/2008 12:18:25 AM
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Interesting that "stay out of my religion and let me freely exercise" and "protect individual liberty" should have been part of the same list. How would you have voted on Prop 8? Against of course; no court should pre-empt the will of the people, a cornestone of individual liberty.
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RE: Republican Candidate for 2012? - 12/4/2008 2:28:08 AM
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Completely off topic - and maybe this should be in another thread - but what court and what "pre-empting" of the will of the people? The will of the people of the South in the 1860's was to maintain slavery and to fight a war to protect it. That was ok too I suppose?
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RE: Republican Candidate for 2012? - 12/4/2008 3:28:56 AM
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Completely off topic - and maybe this should be in another thread - but what court and what "pre-empting" of the will of the people? The California Supreme court and the people of California. quote:
The will of the people of the South in the 1860's was to maintain slavery and to fight a war to protect it. That was ok too I suppose? The will of the people isn't unlimited, but it's limits have to derive from something other than three justices and their arbitrary rulings.
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RE: Republican Candidate for 2012? - 12/4/2008 4:17:56 AM
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I still think it's interesting that people who argue strongly for personal liberty have no problem at all impinging upon the rights of others along their own religiously based moral grounds. Just a touch on the hypocritical side.
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RE: Republican Candidate for 2012? - 12/4/2008 9:14:28 AM
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I still think it's interesting that people who argue strongly for personal liberty have no problem at all impinging upon the rights of others along their own religiously based moral grounds. Just a touch on the hypocritical side. Prop 8 has nothing to do with 'personal liberty'; when one seeks to redefine society's institutions, then one is seeking something other than personal liberty.
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RE: Republican Candidate for 2012? - 12/4/2008 9:15:59 AM
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People were just dumb back then. They were too open and direct in their ignorance and hatred. If they were smart they would have oppossed things like interracial marriage by masking their racist arguments under PC language and putting constitutional amendments banning interracial marriage on the ballot (all of which would have no doubt passed easily in many areas of the country). Lucky for us, however, they weren't that smart, and the "will of the people" was rightfully overridden by the courts (or at least in the case of interracial marriage........slavery was another matter). This is all off topic, though, so I suspect we'll get our hands slapped if we carry on. Actually, it was overidden by the 14th amendment, an expression of the will of the people, which the court simply applied - a proper use of the courts power in that instance.
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RE: Republican Candidate for 2012? - 12/4/2008 5:16:34 PM
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People were just dumb back then. They were too open and direct in their ignorance and hatred. If they were smart they would have oppossed things like interracial marriage by masking their racist arguments under PC language and putting constitutional amendments banning interracial marriage on the ballot (all of which would have no doubt passed easily in many areas of the country). Lucky for us, however, they weren't that smart, and the "will of the people" was rightfully overridden by the courts (or at least in the case of interracial marriage........slavery was another matter). This is all off topic, though, so I suspect we'll get our hands slapped if we carry on. Actually, it was overidden by the 14th amendment, an expression of the will of the people, which the court simply applied - a proper use of the courts power in that instance. I know that. That's why I said that slavery was another matter. I was talking about anti Interracial marriage laws being struck down by the courts.
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RE: Republican Candidate for 2012? - 12/4/2008 5:42:45 PM
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I know that. That's why I said that slavery was another matter. I was talking about anti Interracial marriage laws being struck down by the courts. That's what I was talking about struck down per the 14th amendment.
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RE: Republican Candidate for 2012? - 12/4/2008 6:21:02 PM
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ORIGINAL: rcjames Mike Huckabee, J.C. Watts, or Sarah Palin. Thanks RC I was a strong supporter of Huckabee to win the nomination, and would be again. Don't know a lot about Watts (except from football). Could happily go until 12/21/12 without seeing Palin again. As likely as not the candidate will be someone that nobody is giving serious consideration to today.
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RE: Republican Candidate for 2012? - 12/5/2008 9:45:56 AM
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My head starts to hurt just imagining trying to decide another election already. I think I for one will just concentrate on the current President Elect and hope for a job well done.
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RE: Republican Candidate for 2012? - 12/5/2008 11:31:33 AM
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ORIGINAL: rcjames Mike Huckabee, J.C. Watts, or Sarah Palin. Thanks RC I was a strong supporter of Huckabee to win the nomination, and would be again. Don't know a lot about Watts (except from football). Could happily go until 12/21/12 without seeing Palin again. As likely as not the candidate will be someone that nobody is giving serious consideration to today. Huckleberry has FOX behind him, which might work against him in a general election. Watts can't hit the deep out patterns anymore and Palin has to distance herself from Tina Fey. After the 2004 election, all money was on Hillary for the dem nod while McCain's campaign was dead in the water, so you may be right about the Dark Horse factor.
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