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RE: Opening merchandise in the store...to see if it &qu... - 11/10/2008 7:02:21 PM   
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If the package says 6 pair and I pay for a package of 6 pair, how is that stealing?


Because that 6 that you took from the store is not the 6 that were packaged in that package.

Logic. Simple logic.


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RE: Opening merchandise in the store...to see if it &qu... - 11/10/2008 7:07:14 PM  1 votes
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If it's important to me to hand pick colors of undies, kinds of chips, etc, then I don't buy the variety packs....I buy them individually. The point of the variety packs is to save money by buying in bulk, and for those who don't mind variety. They aren't packaged to cater to those who have to have every single item hand-picked.


Exactly. Variety packs are for people who want variety. If you don't want variety, don't buy a variety pack.

I actually think it falls under the category of vandalism more than theft. I doubt it's legal.

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RE: Opening merchandise in the store...to see if it &qu... - 11/10/2008 7:09:55 PM   
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If the package says 6 pair and I pay for a package of 6 pair, how is that stealing?


I gave an explanation of that here:

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People often won't buy packages of things that have been opened, either for hygiene or safety purposes. I certainly won't. So, when someone intentionally damages packages in a store, they are most likely costing the store money when they have to damage out items. That's stealing, no matter how you word it.

Not many people are going to buy packages of open undies because they have no idea of they've been tried on or not. If they can't be sold, then the store loses money because you ripped open a package no one wants to buy now.

I understand about the ugly undies. I am ultra-picky about mine and will only wear certain colors and fabrics. Therefore, I pick them out individually. Multi-packs are not packaged for people like me who want every pair hand picked.


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RE: Opening merchandise in the store...to see if it &qu... - 11/10/2008 7:16:24 PM   
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If the package says 6 pair and I pay for a package of 6 pair, how is that stealing?


I gave an explanation of that here:

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People often won't buy packages of things that have been opened, either for hygiene or safety purposes. I certainly won't. So, when someone intentionally damages packages in a store, they are most likely costing the store money when they have to damage out items. That's stealing, no matter how you word it.

Not many people are going to buy packages of open undies because they have no idea of they've been tried on or not. If they can't be sold, then the store loses money because you ripped open a package no one wants to buy now.

I understand about the ugly undies. I am ultra-picky about mine and will only wear certain colors and fabrics. Therefore, I pick them out individually. Multi-packs are not packaged for people like me who want every pair hand picked.

Excellent answer!

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RE: Opening merchandise in the store...to see if it &qu... - 11/10/2008 7:19:53 PM   
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If the package says 6 pair and I pay for a package of 6 pair, how is that stealing?


I gave an explanation of that here:

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People often won't buy packages of things that have been opened, either for hygiene or safety purposes. I certainly won't. So, when someone intentionally damages packages in a store, they are most likely costing the store money when they have to damage out items. That's stealing, no matter how you word it.

Not many people are going to buy packages of open undies because they have no idea of they've been tried on or not. If they can't be sold, then the store loses money because you ripped open a package no one wants to buy now.

I understand about the ugly undies. I am ultra-picky about mine and will only wear certain colors and fabrics. Therefore, I pick them out individually. Multi-packs are not packaged for people like me who want every pair hand picked.



At our walmart here they tape the bag shut and sell it at full price.

We're not blessed here with a Victoria Secret to handpick my panties from. I'm stuck with Walmart, and their single pairs of panties are horrendous. Tacky, disgusting and cheap.

How about other things that arn't such a hygenic concern or that doesnt require the package being ripped? Like those sets of baby onesies they sell on a set of hangers. I usually remove the ones I don't like and put them on the other hanger and buy the set that I do like. No package was opened.

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RE: Opening merchandise in the store...to see if it &qu... - 11/10/2008 7:20:21 PM  1 votes
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The panties with the prints!! Exactly!!! Those things are wretched and they always throw in a few pairs in an otherwise nice package. I really think they do it so that the ugly pairs will get thrown away and we'll have to buy another pack. Seriously, who wears those?


People like me who see underwear as a necessity instead of a fashion statement.

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RE: Opening merchandise in the store...to see if it &qu... - 11/10/2008 7:24:15 PM   
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We're not blessed here with a Victoria Secret to handpick my panties from. I'm stuck with Walmart, and their single pairs of panties are horrendous. Tacky, disgusting and cheap.


You could probably order some online. Granted, the S&H isn't pretty, but it sure stealing.

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RE: Opening merchandise in the store...to see if it &qu... - 11/10/2008 7:26:53 PM   
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We're not blessed here with a Victoria Secret to handpick my panties from. I'm stuck with Walmart, and their single pairs of panties are horrendous. Tacky, disgusting and cheap.


You could probably order some online. Granted, the S&H isn't pretty, but it sure stealing.

Then how would I be sure of the size and which fabric I like?

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RE: Opening merchandise in the store...to see if it &qu... - 11/10/2008 7:28:42 PM   
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Then how would I be sure of the size and which fabric I like?


Find an online store that has a sensible return policy. I'm not sure what online clothes shopping is like (let alone online underwear shopping), so I can't point you in any trustworthy direction. But again - sure beats stealing.

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RE: Opening merchandise in the store...to see if it &qu... - 11/10/2008 7:31:02 PM   
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How about other things that arn't such a hygenic concern or that doesnt require the package being ripped? Like those sets of baby onesies they sell on a set of hangers. I usually remove the ones I don't like and put them on the other hanger and buy the set that I do like. No package was opened.

And if you exchange with one from another set, doesn't that mean someone else has to buy a set with two of the same because you wanted one of the "cuter" prints from their package? How is that fair to the other consumers who are paying the same price you are? If everyone keeps trading, eventually there are going to be picked over, left over merchandise that the store can't sell because no one wants it.

I just don't see it as a consumer's place to decide to undo packaging and sets just to suit their own needs. Those are meant to sell as is.


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RE: Opening merchandise in the store...to see if it &qu... - 11/10/2008 7:32:38 PM   
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What I'm about to say is not meant personally in any way. If this seems like a personal attack, I apologize. It is not intended to be so. But it needs to be said because this is something that we all need to learn.


It's not all about you.


If you want the fabric and size you like, it's fairly easy to look up that information online. If you are taking packages of ANYTHING apart to put in what you want, that is stealing, plain and simple. There is no way to justify taking a package apart (which is sold as 1 unit) to put together the unit that you want (which is not reflected in the price). Basically, you're getting an item for far less than you should be paying for it. And you have not given an indication that this bothers you in any way.

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RE: Opening merchandise in the store...to see if it &qu... - 11/10/2008 7:32:53 PM   
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How about other things that arn't such a hygenic concern or that doesnt require the package being ripped? Like those sets of baby onesies they sell on a set of hangers. I usually remove the ones I don't like and put them on the other hanger and buy the set that I do like. No package was opened.

And if you exchange with one from another set, doesn't that mean someone else has to buy a set with two of the same because you wanted one of the "cuter" prints from their package? How is that fair to the other consumers who are paying the same price you are? If everyone keeps trading, eventually there are going to be picked over, left over merchandise that the store can't sell because no one wants it.

I just don't see it as a consumer's place to decide to undo packaging and sets just to suit their own needs. Those are meant to sell as is.



If it's left over because no one wants it then it shouldn't be stuck in a package to force people to buy something they don't want.

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RE: Opening merchandise in the store...to see if it &qu... - 11/10/2008 7:34:55 PM   
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Nobody's forcing you to buy what you don't want. It's a package. If you want it, get it. If not, don't. And I'm pretty sure that if you do some checking you'll see that Wal-Mart puts individual undies for sale too. I'm married and I've had to buy them, so I know they do.

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RE: Opening merchandise in the store...to see if it &qu... - 11/10/2008 7:36:50 PM   
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I luv getting individual undies from Wal-Mart! ...probably because they usually go on sale and I can get a ton of them at once (if I want).

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RE: Opening merchandise in the store...to see if it &qu... - 11/10/2008 7:38:21 PM   
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If it's left over because no one wants it then it shouldn't be stuck in a package to force people to buy something they don't want.

How is anyone forced to buy anything?? Well, I know sometimes chocolate jumps into the cart and begs to be bought, but seriously! If you don't like a set, then don't buy it. Leave it there for someone who likes variety and appreciates bulk pricing.

But, I suspect this argument is the proverbial dead horse, so I'm outta this corral


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RE: Opening merchandise in the store...to see if it &qu... - 11/10/2008 7:56:05 PM  1 votes
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Who actually eats the frito's anyway?

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What if another person doesn't like the doritos and wants to package with the extra fritos?
Do you realize that within 41 minutes you made two separate posts; each of which opposes the logic of the other one?

First, who you imply that no one (or hardly anyone) eats Frito's; then you imply that so many people eat Fritos that they would actually appreciate more Fritos than Doritos.

You can't have your argument both ways.




Neither should consumers treat packaged items (regardless of what the package contains) as their personal "pick-and-choose" buffet.

Again, as it has been said before by myriad posters, either buy your items individually to be assured of getting exactly what you want, or buy the packaged items - AS they have been packaged by the manufacturer.

If you're interested in a store that isn't in your area, buy online. If you don't want to buy online, then play by the rules of the local store AND by the rules of common courtesy and respect.

To rifle through packages of anything to get the "best" and then to combine the "lessers" into a new package is not only unethical, it's also dehumanizing. Essentially this type of behavior is saying, "I'm worth the best; I don't care about anyone else, though."

If you think you're worth the best, then buy the best . . . which the vast majority of the time are sold as separates; not as packages.

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RE: Opening merchandise in the store...to see if it &qu... - 11/10/2008 8:02:25 PM   
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Thank you Sharon-Marie! That's what I was trying to say!

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RE: Opening merchandise in the store...to see if it &qu... - 11/10/2008 8:04:44 PM   
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LOL!

My pleasure, James.

You were doing pretty good with your posts, as well.

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RE: Opening merchandise in the store...to see if it &qu... - 11/10/2008 8:27:22 PM   
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James, Sharon-Marie, everyone has been saying the same thing, and it's falling on deaf ears. I can't even believe this is an issue. Mind-boggling.

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RE: Opening merchandise in the store...to see if it &qu... - 11/10/2008 8:36:22 PM   
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We've all been saying the same thing for about 2-3 pages now.

Nobody's getting anywhere.

I'm sorry that you don't like variety packs. I happen to love them and am annoyed when I see packs opened.

I went to buy socks for my step-son. The only package of the size that he needed in the brand that he likes was opened. So we had to buy the more expensive brand. THEN when we got home we found out they were too big. So I had to take the extra package back and get a smaller size. So because someone opened the package, we ended up paying extra money for the extra package and the other brand we didn't usually buy.

I agree with the others. If you don't like the three undies that are in there, buy them individually. I've shopped at Wal-Mart (don't tell Sharon-Marie), I've seen them individually.

And if I'm buying the cheap underwear variety pack, I don't care what color they are. When I care, I buy the fancy fun stuff (which I can get at Target, Wal-Mart or go all the way to V. Secret).

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RE: Opening merchandise in the store...to see if it &qu... - 11/10/2008 8:40:21 PM   
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I've shopped at Wal-Mart (don't tell Sharon-Marie)


Gee . . . ya think you know a person, and then you find out the real truth about them.

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RE: Opening merchandise in the store...to see if it &qu... - 11/10/2008 8:46:12 PM   
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When I care, I buy the fancy fun stuff (which I can get at Target, Wal-Mart or go all the way to V. Secret).

This is a good point, Christine. Victoria's Secret doesn't have a monopoly on nice underthings. Not at all.

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RE: Opening merchandise in the store...to see if it &qu... - 11/10/2008 8:49:10 PM   
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We saw a pre-packed thing of flavored coffee yesterday - went around the corner and it was cheaper to buy them individually.

Bought a package of smelling, fancy lotion to split up for Christmas gifts...
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RE: Opening merchandise in the store...to see if it &qu... - 11/11/2008 5:47:00 AM   
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If it's important to me to hand pick colors of undies, kinds of chips, etc, then I don't buy the variety packs....I buy them individually.


That may be true for women, but I don't think it's true for men. I don't remember the last time I saw men's underwear for sale individually -- of course there is no such thing as Victoria's Secret for men (that I know of anyway).

But, I could be wrong, since I haven't actually looked for them, so maybe they are there and I've just never noticed.

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RE: Opening merchandise in the store...to see if it &qu... - 11/11/2008 8:25:53 AM   
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That may be true for women, but I don't think it's true for men. I don't remember the last time I saw men's underwear for sale individually -- of course there is no such thing as Victoria's Secret for men (that I know of anyway).


And since when did you ever hear of a man concerned about the color of his underwear? In my house there are only two qualifiers for men and boys underwear that matter - do they fit and are they clean.

Opening to check for size is one thing in my opinion, but switching contents is flat out not right.

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