RE: Opening merchandise in the store...to see if it "fits"
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RE: Opening merchandise in the store...to see if it &qu... - 11/11/2008 2:10:38 PM
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Kath
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The Goodwill, Open door Mission and the other charities will not take used underwear. I bought Mike some undies once, in the wrong size, and had opened the package. I was going to donate the ones he did not try on but they still refused to take them. I suspect if anyone is donating underwear the mission you are donating to will throw them out unless it's an unopened package.
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RE: Opening merchandise in the store...to see if it &qu... - 11/11/2008 2:23:50 PM
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Ill give them to the church for the rummage sale. I am not sure if they care, actually--and I am very sure the people who buy do not. They are just thrilled to get stuff. (I had trouble with the Goodwill taking a sleeper sofa once--she was all excited, had arranged for a pick up, then asked if we had a cat. After I said yes, she didn't want it. Said people might be allergic and no one would want it. I suspect she wanted the it for herself. The people we ended up giving it to don't have cats or like cats, but they do like the sofa.) I would not send *used* underwear to anyone. That is kind of gross. But unworn--hey. I have seen used underwear at some Goodwill-type stores, and I have seen people buy it. I hope I never get to the point where I need to....
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RE: Opening merchandise in the store...to see if it &qu... - 11/11/2008 2:26:17 PM
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I see undies hung up in Goodwill all the time.
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RE: Opening merchandise in the store...to see if it &qu... - 11/11/2008 2:53:25 PM
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Kath
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It must just be our town or something. I know the open door mission posted a notice that says they will not take underwear unless it's in an unopened bag. Salvation Army (not goodwill, sorry) also said that, I can't remember if we got a flyer or if it was in the paper.
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RE: Opening merchandise in the store...to see if it &qu... - 11/11/2008 3:26:16 PM
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ORIGINAL: christsstar So I have a question for those who say the pattern size and solid size are different. is it really different enough to make the underwear hang off or too tight? Is it a full size different???? Yes, it is a big difference. More than a full size? Depends on what you mean by size -- men's sizes are literally inches, but they also convert them to S, M, L, etc. The difference is more than the difference between a 32 inch and a 33 inch, and may even be bigger than the difference between medium and large. Put it this way -- my pants are 32 inch waist, and medium underwear is for 32-34 inch waists. The solid mediums fit, and the patterned mediums do not fit at all -- way too tight. They actually fit the first time, but wash them once and they shrink too much. It is not a trivial difference, they are a completely different size. Since it happens after washing, that's why I think it has something to do with the material.
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RE: Opening merchandise in the store...to see if it &qu... - 11/11/2008 3:38:10 PM
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christsstar
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ORIGINAL: christsstar So I have a question for those who say the pattern size and solid size are different. is it really different enough to make the underwear hang off or too tight? Is it a full size different???? Yes, it is a big difference. More than a full size? Depends on what you mean by size -- men's sizes are literally inches, but they also convert them to S, M, L, etc. The difference is more than the difference between a 32 inch and a 33 inch, and may even be bigger than the difference between medium and large. Put it this way -- my pants are 32 inch waist, and medium underwear is for 32-34 inch waists. The solid mediums fit, and the patterned mediums do not fit at all -- way too tight. They actually fit the first time, but wash them once and they shrink too much. It is not a trivial difference, they are a completely different size. Since it happens after washing, that's why I think it has something to do with the material. That makes sense. I will say that I have that problem too, in that when they shrink they become smaller. Not too tight, but smaller in that they don't cover everything. So I know next time, buy the next size up. But I'm not sure I've noticed a difference between patterns and solids. And for what it's worth ... women's underwear will vary how it's sold depending on the manufacturer. Some sell s, m, l. Some do numbers. If it's a number, it doesn't necessarily correlate to the pant size. For instance, a size 8 pant may wear a size 5 underwear. I don't get it at all. If everyone sold them in packs .... then I bet there'd be complaining to the marketing depts of the companies. the marketing depts exist for a reason; and after exclusive studies, I'd be willing to bet that they've learned people don't care so much about the different colors as they do about getting a deal. And those who want colors want a variety; those who want white want only white.
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RE: Opening merchandise in the store...to see if it &qu... - 11/11/2008 3:43:04 PM
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Ooops . . . I over-quoted. My above post was strictly about swapping same sizes of things, etc. If a package contains different sizes, that might be because someone came along and took matters into their own hands and swapped items from package to package. If not, then it's an error of the manufacturer and the "package" shouldn't even be sold. It should be taken off the shelf and returned to the manufacturer (by the store) and the store should receive a refund.
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RE: Opening merchandise in the store...to see if it &qu... - 11/11/2008 3:44:58 PM
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WhiteRoseBlessings
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Incidentally, I've never experienced two different sizes between solids and patterns - in the same package. I am a bit amazed at reading that some of y'all have.
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RE: Opening merchandise in the store...to see if it &qu... - 11/11/2008 3:55:30 PM
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WhiteRoseBlessings
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I've never noticed that with what I have bought.
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RE: Opening merchandise in the store...to see if it &qu... - 11/11/2008 4:00:33 PM
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ORIGINAL: WhiteRoseBlessings Incidentally, I've never experienced two different sizes between solids and patterns - in the same package. I am a bit amazed at reading that some of y'all have. I'm a little obsessive, and thus, more likely to notice than most -- or at least more likely to spend the time figuring out what is different. I am not a GQ kind of guy, and I don't dress very "flashily" but I do have definite preferences, and I notice when things aren't right. For example, my mom bought me a shirt with a nice pattern on it, but when you buttoned the shirt, the pattern did not line up exactly. I gave it to Goodwill, because I just couldn't wear it. I am also very sensitive to texture, and won't wear certain clothing that looks nice because I don't like how it feels. The solution to underwear that fits at first, then shrinks after it's washed, is to air dry it, so it doesn't shrink. I tried that, but I couldn't wear them because they didn't feel right then. Incidentally, with a different brand of underwear, the patterns ran larger than the solids, so it is not universal.
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RE: Opening merchandise in the store...to see if it &qu... - 11/11/2008 4:08:10 PM
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ORIGINAL: christsstar If it's a number, it doesn't necessarily correlate to the pant size. For instance, a size 8 pant may wear a size 5 underwear. I don't get it at all. I'm sorry, that is completely unethical and immoral. Numbers have meaning, and they should be consistent. Men's clothing is almost always sized in actual inches (other than shoes) which means that the numbers mean something. A jacket that is size 40 -- 40 inch chest. Pants that are 32X30 -- 32 inch waist and 30 inch inseam. S, M and L is not as good, but still acceptable as they are obviously descriptors rather than specific measurements. But to call something a "5" without distinguishing 5 of what, makes no sense. And I've even heard there is a size ZERO. That is not possible -- size zero means it has no length/volume/whatever and thus doesn't exist.
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RE: Opening merchandise in the store...to see if it &qu... - 11/11/2008 4:15:45 PM
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ORIGINAL: WhiteRoseBlessings You write letters expressing your desires (hopefully in a letter that is also courteous and complimentary). You might even make phone calls; it all depends on how important "it" is to you. So, retailers only have to do the right thing based on how important it is to me? I shouldn't have to write letters and complain to get basic service like clothes that are actually the size they say they are. Right now in my underwear drawer, I bet I have 21 pairs of Stafford bikini briefs, all labeled Medium. All have been purchased in the last six months. At best, despite all being the same "size," maybe 10 of them fit. The problem is, at $10 bucks for a package of 3, most people aren't going to bother to complain. It's not worth the hassle for $3.33 for one pair. But, that doesn't absolve the manufacturer of their responsibility. P.S. I know we are far afield of the topic, sorry.
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RE: Opening merchandise in the store...to see if it &qu... - 11/11/2008 4:23:48 PM
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With any package of ladies' underwear I have bought they give measurements that correlate with each size. I have wondered though why underwear sizes don't correlate with pants sizes.
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RE: Opening merchandise in the store...to see if it &qu... - 11/11/2008 4:29:03 PM
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Ps103
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It isn't the retailer's fault--it is the manufacturer. Complain to them, and ask them to deal with it, or switch manufacturers. The retailer might be able to accomodate you by offering individual pairs of shorts, and if they are unable, find another retailer. Btw--I have noticed that the solids are much larger than the prints, even coming straight from the package with no washing at al, so you aren't imagining it. I looked around till I found someone that offered all one or all the other, since the difference did amount to a size.
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RE: Opening merchandise in the store...to see if it &qu... - 11/11/2008 4:31:52 PM
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christsstar
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sock sizes don't correlate to shoe sizes very well either. quote:
I'm sorry, that is completely unethical and immoral. Numbers have meaning, and they should be consistent. Men's clothing is almost always sized in actual inches (other than shoes) which means that the numbers mean something. A jacket that is size 40 -- 40 inch chest. Pants that are 32X30 -- 32 inch waist and 30 inch inseam. S, M and L is not as good, but still acceptable as they are obviously descriptors rather than specific measurements. But to call something a "5" without distinguishing 5 of what, makes no sense. And I've even heard there is a size ZERO. That is not possible -- size zero means it has no length/volume/whatever and thus doesn't exist. Agreed. And what's worse is that some stores sell odd sizes, and some sell even sizes. (It's the difference between a Jr. item and a Misses item.) So I'm a size 9 in my jeans, but I'm a size 6 in my dresses or slacks. I happen to like the way the jr's jeans are cut better than women's jeans. Or even better, I may be a size 8 in Dockers, but a size 6 in Gloria Vanderbilt. And I agree, this is off-topic. Sorry.
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RE: Opening merchandise in the store...to see if it &qu... - 11/11/2008 4:39:21 PM
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ORIGINAL: Ps103 Btw--I have noticed that the solids are much larger than the prints, even coming straight from the package with no washing at all, so you aren't imagining it. Hurray! I'm glad I'm not the only one...
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RE: Opening merchandise in the store...to see if it &qu... - 11/11/2008 4:47:35 PM
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You know what, I think it's all a moot point. The whole discussion on sizes being bigger or smaller or stretchier or whether or not we like the way merchandised is package is irrelevant--the bottom line is that's it's not our stuff. We have no right to do what we want with someone else's stuff, no matter how idiotically they packaged their stuff. It's not our stuff, plain and simple. I don't have a problem with what Abiyah did for one simple reason--they allowed it. She asked first, and followed their policy. Until we've paid for something and made it ours, it doesn't belong to us and we need to respect the retailer's property rights.
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RE: Opening merchandise in the store...to see if it &qu... - 11/11/2008 5:26:15 PM
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ORIGINAL: Consecrated2God You know what, I think it's all a moot point. The whole discussion on sizes being bigger or smaller or stretchier or whether or not we like the way merchandised is package is irrelevant--the bottom line is that's it's not our stuff. We have no right to do what we want with someone else's stuff, no matter how idiotically they packaged their stuff. It's not our stuff, plain and simple. And all I am saying is that goes both ways. They have an obligation not to cheat their customers, which is exactly what they are doing.
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RE: Opening merchandise in the store...to see if it &qu... - 11/11/2008 6:05:45 PM
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I can hardly believe this, but I actually remember that my ex-husband had the same problem as Random, and it's been over 20 years! Sorry, I know we've gone beyond that, but I just had to get that in.
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