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RE: Ancient Communions Chat Thread - 3/30/2010 9:41:41 AM
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ORIGINAL: Heavendweller A Blessed Holy Week to All! I was received into the Holy Orthodox Church this past Lazarus Saturday. My daughter came because as she said, "If you want me to be there, I will come." It was her first time in an Orthodox Church. I look forward to peaceful fellowship with all of you here. It has been a looong journey for me from Protestant Evangelicalism to the ancient faith of Orthodoxy. Many tears have been shed, and many prayers offered up, and now I anticipate life in Christ in the Church and partaking of the Holy Mysteries. May His Peace rest upon each of you this Pascha Season. Heavendweller (Darlene Nonna) Welcome Darlene and I rejoice with you in your reception into the Orthodox Church! We share the same 'Orthodox birthday'. It was exciting for me to have my first days in communion with the Church coincide with Holy Week. Looking back over the last year, I see how the entire Liturgical year is designed to make Holy Week very special, so it is exciting again for me.
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RE: Ancient Communions Chat Thread - 3/30/2010 12:11:48 PM
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Thanks everyone, for the welcome. My heart has truly found a resting place in the Orthodox faith. I have found such comfort in the Holy Mysteries. I consider it a privelege to partake of the Eucharist. What a sobering yet joyful thought that as we approach the chalice, we are anticipating partaking of the very Body of our Lord Jesus and the very Blood of our Lord Jesus. "The cup of blessing which we bless, is it not a participation in the blood of Christ? The bread which we break, is it not a participation in the body of Christ?" This past Palm Sunday, as I approached to receive our Lord Jesus in this Holy Mystery, I could not keep from weeping. Afterward, I was filled with fear and trembling, but not in a distressing sort of way. Rather, not unlike Isaiah when upon seeing God he exclaimed, "I am a man of unclean lips." When we are in God's very presence, participating in the Life of the Creator, is it not an awesome yet wonderful place to be? "It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God. All the prophets knew this. We should know this as well when approaching Him in the Holy Mysteries. When we confess our sins, do we not confess to the Savior of our soul? He is immediately present as we pour out our hearts to the Living God. The Lord humbled me in a most profound way during my first confession. Again, at various times I could not contain my weeping. As we near the day of our Lord's Passion, may we examine ourselves and worship Him in heartfelt contrition and praise. Glory to our God now and always and unto the ages of ages! Darlene Nonna
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RE: Ancient Communions Chat Thread - 3/30/2010 3:50:08 PM
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heavendweller, congrats! Big responsibility. What a great time to be received into the church.
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RE: Ancient Communions Chat Thread - 3/30/2010 4:05:45 PM
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ORIGINAL: kielbasa Oooh--another question for our Orthodox brethren (I just like the word brethren ): I have only been to services in the nearest Orthodox Church, which is Greek. Most of the service was in Greek (and my Greek really stinks!) Do Russian Orthodox Churches have services in Russian, and American Orthodox have services in English, etc? Sorry if that is a dumb question--I *can* be even dumber--when I was younger I thought all Orthodox were Greek Orthodox . But that was only because every Orthodox church I had ever been in was a GO church But I would like to go to an American Orthodox service, if it were in English. Orthodoxy in America has taken an unusual form - due to unprecedented immigration from all parts of the world. Many "jurisdictions' were established in this continent that receive their spiritual care from back home in the old world. Over the last 30 years, many of them increased the usage of English in their services, some churches are 100% English made up of almost entirely American-born converts, some churches have services in native languages of home country AND English - I know the Russian churches do this, so they would have 2 Liturgies, for example - one in Russian and one in English. Our parish traces its roots to the Carpathian/Ukraine/Slovakia region that traditionally used Church slavonic, but our priest is American and doesn't know Slavonic so all services are in English, I might throw in a couple of hymns in Slavonic here and there. Try this site to see which churches are near you and you can either go to their website or email them and ask if they have services in English: http://orthodoxyinamerica.org/lr_v10/locator.php
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RE: Ancient Communions Chat Thread - 3/31/2010 12:55:34 AM
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Hello Heavendweller, Am I invited in your Chat thread to! Peter
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RE: Ancient Communions Chat Thread - 3/31/2010 12:02:02 PM
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Sure, Peter, you can chat with us. Just remember this is a friendly haven for us, and if there is something you want to discuss other than that, you need to do it in a different thread. Why don't you tell us what your church is doing for Holy Week?
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RE: Ancient Communions Chat Thread - 3/31/2010 12:04:32 PM
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This past Palm Sunday, as I approached to receive our Lord Jesus in this Holy Mystery, I could not keep from weeping. Afterward, I was filled with fear and trembling, but not in a distressing sort of way. Rather, not unlike Isaiah when upon seeing God he exclaimed, "I am a man of unclean lips." When we are in God's very presence, participating in the Life of the Creator, is it not an awesome yet wonderful place to be? "It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God. All the prophets knew this. We should know this as well when approaching Him in the Holy Mysteries. When we confess our sins, do we not confess to the Savior of our soul? He is immediately present as we pour out our hearts to the Living God. The Lord humbled me in a most profound way during my first confession. Again, at various times I could not contain my weeping. That was beautiful, Darlene. I know exactly how you felt.
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RE: Ancient Communions Chat Thread - 3/31/2010 2:48:50 PM
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Kielbasa, if you can go to a monastery - that's great! You can often get a full cycle of daily services at a monastery and a breath of heaven. When we visited an OCA monastery in PA last year, it was like the nuns were glowing (not literally), but we felt very close presence of God there. When we were eating breakfast with them one morning, just their presence suddenly made me vividly aware of my many sins.
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RE: Ancient Communions Chat Thread - 3/31/2010 9:20:47 PM
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ORIGINAL: kielbasa Sure, Peter, you can chat with us. Just remember this is a friendly haven for us, and if there is something you want to discuss other than that, you need to do it in a different thread. Why don't you tell us what your church is doing for Holy Week? Good evening kielbasa, Thank you for allowing me to enter this friendly haven. Here is the yearly church calender of what my church group practices. Holy Week is half way down the list. Soon, we will be praising the LORD in the whole Christian family saying "Alleluia! Christ Is Risen! He has risen indeed! Sundays and Seasons THE TIME OF CHRISTMAS Advent Season First Sunday in Advent Second Sunday in Advent Third Sunday in Advent Fourth Sunday in Advent Christmas Season The Nativity of Our Lord Christmas Eve Christmas Midnight Christmas Dawn Christmas Day First Sunday after Christmas Second Sunday after Christmas Epiphany Season The Epiphany of Our Lord First Sunday after the Epiphany The Baptism of Our Lord Second Sunday after the Epiphany Third Sunday after the Epiphany Fourth Sunday after the Epiphany Fifth Sunday after the Epiphany Sixth Sunday after the Epiphany Seventh Sunday after the Epiphany Eighth Sunday after the Epiphany Last Sunday after the Epiphany The Transfiguration of Our Lord THE TIME OF EASTER Pre-Lent Season Septuagesima Sexagesima Quinquagesima Lenten Season Ash Wednesday First Sunday in Lent Second Sunday in Lent Third Sunday in Lent Fourth Sunday in Lent Fifth Sunday in Lent Holy Week Palm Sunday/Passion Sunday Monday in Holy Week Tuesday in Holy Week Wednesday in Holy Week Holy Thursday Good Friday Holy Saturday Easter Season The Resurrection of Our Lord Easter Vigil Easter Dawn Easter Day Easter Evening/Monday Easter Tuesday Second Sunday of Easter Third Sunday of Easter Fourth Sunday of Easter Fifth Sunday of Easter Sixth Sunday of Easter The Ascension of Our Lord Seventh Sunday of Easter Pentecost Pentecost Eve Day of Pentecost Pentecost Evening/Monday Pentecost Tuesday THE TIME OF THE CHURCH The Season after Pentecost Holy Trinity Second through the Twenty-seventh Sunday after Pentecost Last Sunday of the Church Year [OR] The Season of the Holy Trinity The Holy Trinity First through the Twenty-sixth Sunday after Trinity Last Sunday of the Church Year Peter Daniel
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RE: Ancient Communions Chat Thread - 3/31/2010 9:48:03 PM
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Congradulation's Heavendweller, Here is where Jessica and I have been welcomed to visit anytime. Saint Michael's Orthodox Church http://www.stmichaelniles.org/ For those of you who did not here that I invited Very Rev. Father Samuel J. Sherry - the Pastor and his wife to come my wedding back in June of 2008, what a blessing and honor it was for them to come!!! And on father's day in the year 2009 Jessica and I went to Saint Michael's Orthodox to say hello to Very Rev. Father Samuel J. Sherry and his family and even before attending my church and then for the remaining of the day I visited my mom and dad for father's day. Of course I wanted to let my dad now that Father Samuel J. Sherry is a Christian shepard to me and I also had the privilage to share 1 Corinthians 4:15 to my dad to. Peter Daniel
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RE: Ancient Communions Chat Thread - 3/31/2010 11:54:06 PM
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ORIGINAL: Heavendweller Thanks everyone, for the welcome. My heart has truly found a resting place in the Orthodox faith. I have found such comfort in the Holy Mysteries. I consider it a privelege to partake of the Eucharist. What a sobering yet joyful thought that as we approach the chalice, we are anticipating partaking of the very Body of our Lord Jesus and the very Blood of our Lord Jesus. "The cup of blessing which we bless, is it not a participation in the blood of Christ? The bread which we break, is it not a participation in the body of Christ?" This past Palm Sunday, as I approached to receive our Lord Jesus in this Holy Mystery, I could not keep from weeping. Afterward, I was filled with fear and trembling, but not in a distressing sort of way. Rather, not unlike Isaiah when upon seeing God he exclaimed, "I am a man of unclean lips." When we are in God's very presence, participating in the Life of the Creator, is it not an awesome yet wonderful place to be? "It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God. All the prophets knew this. We should know this as well when approaching Him in the Holy Mysteries. When we confess our sins, do we not confess to the Savior of our soul? He is immediately present as we pour out our hearts to the Living God. The Lord humbled me in a most profound way during my first confession. Again, at various times I could not contain my weeping. As we near the day of our Lord's Passion, may we examine ourselves and worship Him in heartfelt contrition and praise. Glory to our God now and always and unto the ages of ages! Darlene Nonna Hi Darlene! I haven't been on crosswalk for a while. Peter told me you were back so I just wanted to say... Congratulations!!! That's a very touching testimony you gave. God is powerful isn't He? God works in very mysterious ways, especially through the Sacraments. Jessica Rose
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RE: Ancient Communions Chat Thread - 4/1/2010 9:58:22 PM
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Hello everyone! How was Maundy Thursday? I just came home from a Mass. It was really nice and lovely. How about everyone else here? I really love Maundy Thursday because it reminds me of the significance of the Lord's body and blood in the Holy Sacrament. This to me is my favorite Holy Week sevice. Jessica Rose
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RE: Ancient Communions Chat Thread - 4/4/2010 12:09:43 AM
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Christ Jesus has Risen indeed Alleluia!!!
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RE: Ancient Communions Chat Thread - 4/4/2010 9:37:15 AM
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Death is swallowed up in victory! Alleluia!
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RE: Ancient Communions Chat Thread - 4/4/2010 11:30:34 AM
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Christ is risen! Christos Anesti! Christ is risen from the dead, trampling down death by death, and upon those in the tombs bestowing life!
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RE: Ancient Communions Chat Thread - 4/4/2010 11:33:27 AM
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The Paschal Sermon of St. John Chrysostom: If any man be devout and love God, let him enjoy this fair and radiant triumphal feast. If any man be a wise servant, let him rejoicing enter into the joy of his Lord. If any have labored long in fasting, let him now receive his recompense. If any have wrought from the first hour, let him today receive his just reward. If any have come at the third hour, let him with thankfulness keep the feast. If any have arrived at the sixth hour, let him have no misgivings; because he shall in nowise be deprived therefor. If any have delayed until the ninth hour, let him draw near, fearing nothing. If any have tarried even until the eleventh hour, let him, also, be not alarmed at his tardiness; for the Lord, who is jealous of his honor, will accept the last even as the first; he gives rest unto him who comes at the eleventh hour, even as unto him who has wrought from the first hour. And he shows mercy upon the last, and cares for the first; and to the one he gives, and upon the other he bestows gifts. And he both accepts the deeds, and welcomes the intention, and honors the acts and praises the offering. Wherefore, enter you all into the joy of your Lord; and receive your reward, both the first, and likewise the second. You rich and poor together, hold high festival. You sober and you heedless, honor the day. Rejoice today, both you who have fasted and you who have disregarded the fast. The table is full-laden; feast ye all sumptuously. The calf is fatted; let no one go hungry away. Enjoy ye all the feast of faith: Receive ye all the riches of loving-kindness. let no one bewail his poverty, for the universal kingdom has been revealed. Let no one weep for his iniquities, for pardon has shown forth from the grave. Let no one fear death, for the Savior's death has set us free. He that was held prisoner of it has annihilated it. By descending into Hell, He made Hell captive. He embittered it when it tasted of His flesh. And Isaiah, foretelling this, did cry: Hell, said he, was embittered, when it encountered Thee in the lower regions. It was embittered, for it was abolished. It was embittered, for it was mocked. It was embittered, for it was slain. It was embittered, for it was overthrown. It was embittered, for it was fettered in chains. It took a body, and met God face to face. It took earth, and encountered Heaven. It took that which was seen, and fell upon the unseen. O Death, where is your sting? O Hell, where is your victory? Christ is risen, and you are overthrown. Christ is risen, and the demons are fallen. Christ is risen, and the angels rejoice. Christ is risen, and life reigns. Christ is risen, and not one dead remains in the grave. For Christ, being risen from the dead, is become the first fruits of those who have fallen asleep. To Him be glory and dominion unto ages of ages. Amen.
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RE: Ancient Communions Chat Thread - 4/4/2010 8:00:59 PM
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Christ is Risen! Alleluia!
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RE: Ancient Communions Chat Thread - 4/4/2010 8:27:17 PM
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ORIGINAL: Dred The Paschal Sermon of St. John Chrysostom: If any man be devout and love God, let him enjoy this fair and radiant triumphal feast. If any man be a wise servant, let him rejoicing enter into the joy of his Lord. If any have labored long in fasting, let him now receive his recompense. If any have wrought from the first hour, let him today receive his just reward. If any have come at the third hour, let him with thankfulness keep the feast. If any have arrived at the sixth hour, let him have no misgivings; because he shall in nowise be deprived therefor. If any have delayed until the ninth hour, let him draw near, fearing nothing. If any have tarried even until the eleventh hour, let him, also, be not alarmed at his tardiness; for the Lord, who is jealous of his honor, will accept the last even as the first; he gives rest unto him who comes at the eleventh hour, even as unto him who has wrought from the first hour. And he shows mercy upon the last, and cares for the first; and to the one he gives, and upon the other he bestows gifts. And he both accepts the deeds, and welcomes the intention, and honors the acts and praises the offering. Wherefore, enter you all into the joy of your Lord; and receive your reward, both the first, and likewise the second. You rich and poor together, hold high festival. You sober and you heedless, honor the day. Rejoice today, both you who have fasted and you who have disregarded the fast. The table is full-laden; feast ye all sumptuously. The calf is fatted; let no one go hungry away. Enjoy ye all the feast of faith: Receive ye all the riches of loving-kindness. let no one bewail his poverty, for the universal kingdom has been revealed. Let no one weep for his iniquities, for pardon has shown forth from the grave. Let no one fear death, for the Savior's death has set us free. He that was held prisoner of it has annihilated it. By descending into Hell, He made Hell captive. He embittered it when it tasted of His flesh. And Isaiah, foretelling this, did cry: Hell, said he, was embittered, when it encountered Thee in the lower regions. It was embittered, for it was abolished. It was embittered, for it was mocked. It was embittered, for it was slain. It was embittered, for it was overthrown. It was embittered, for it was fettered in chains. It took a body, and met God face to face. It took earth, and encountered Heaven. It took that which was seen, and fell upon the unseen. O Death, where is your sting? O Hell, where is your victory? Christ is risen, and you are overthrown. Christ is risen, and the demons are fallen. Christ is risen, and the angels rejoice. Christ is risen, and life reigns. Christ is risen, and not one dead remains in the grave. For Christ, being risen from the dead, is become the first fruits of those who have fallen asleep. To Him be glory and dominion unto ages of ages. Amen. I love St John Chrysostom! He's my favorite early church father. Jessica
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RE: Ancient Communions Chat Thread - 4/5/2010 2:37:06 PM
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ORIGINAL: JesKlu I love St John Chrysostom! He's my favorite early church father. Jessica Yes, he's a great one. Recently, I read a nice collection of his writings on marriage and family life. By the way, I want to say welcome to you and Peter on this thread. My first experience reading the Church fathers was back in 1990. I was in a theology class taught by a Lutheran named Rod Rosenbladt. You may have heard of him. It was a small class, so I got to know him pretty well and we all enjoyed some good interaction. It was a Christology class and I remember one thing he had us read was 'On the Incarnation of the Word of God' by St. Athanasius. I remember Dr. Rosenbladt emphasizing what C.S. Lewis had said in his introduction to an edition of the book. Specifically, he stressed how important it is to read writings from different times and cultures. Those who reject tradition because they "don't want bias to affect how they understand Scripture" are actually being affected by the most recent tradition: current fashions of thought and opinion, most of which they are not even aware. Such is the most dangerous form of bias and the only way to fight it is to read the writings of those at different times whose habitual patterns of thought were different from our own. This introduction, as well as 'On the Incarnation' can be found here: Lewis and Athanasius
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