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RE: Reformed Theology Chat Thread - 2010 edition - 7/13/2010 2:37:24 PM
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stampinlady
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I guess that's the part that I don't get . Our ladies study went through 1 & 2 Thessalonians just this past year and when we got to the verses pertaining to the Lords Day my eyes were really opened to the misguided stuff I had grown up with. I watched the first LBH movie when it came out and ... . I'm realy new to Reformed views of Eschatology, but it makes a lot more sense to me than the other stuff that's out there.
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RE: Reformed Theology Chat Thread - 2010 edition - 7/13/2010 2:40:56 PM
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Eutychus
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Long story, but I was once a member of a forum based on the LB series. I was a member for over a year before finally began reading them (I haven't liked LaHaye since the 70s because of his "The Act of Marriage: The Beauty of Sexual Love" and, to a lesser degree, "Spirit-Controlled Temperament" books). Almost from the start of the LB it was obvious that LaHaye put money and plot above scripture.
I said all that to say this: There is an amazing number of people who based their entire eschatology on the Left Behind Series. I've even run across a few nutcases who say they have chosen to reject the Gospel now in order to be on the Tribulation Force - a stupid decsion based on a stupid fictional series to join a stupid fictional team. How messed up is that?
I've had little success discussing the series with fans of the series. They hold them as dear as some hold their inconsistent, patchwork of "theology" dear.
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RE: Reformed Theology Chat Thread - 2010 edition - 7/13/2010 2:43:54 PM
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doinkdom
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Even among Reformers, there is much opinion about end times.
I'll check with my husband - he had this awesome book that laid out the 3 (or was it 4) views of end times - historic, historic pre-mil, etc. etc. - and you could see the differences and determine your own convictions.
Anyways, I'll get the title for ya...
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RE: Reformed Theology Chat Thread - 2010 edition - 7/14/2010 10:42:30 AM
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Jeffriesw
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Connie, will you post the title to the one you mentioned about end times please?
I sure will as soon as I can remember it - prolly when my husband tells me. 
Would it be?
The Meaning of the Millennium: Four Views
By: Robert G. Clouse (Editor)
http://www.monergismbooks.com/The-Meaning-of-the-Millennium-Four-Views-p-16979.html
This book shows 4 views explained by 4 different writers
Here is the table of contents...
Table of Contents
Introduction - Robert G. Clouse
1. Historic Premillennialism - George Eldon Ladd
A Dispensational Premillennial Response - Herman A. Hoyt
A Postmillennial Response - Loraine Boettner
An Amillennial Response - Anthony A. Hoekema
2. Dispensational Premillennialism - Herman A. Hoyt
A Historical Premillennial Response - George Eldon Ladd
A Postmillennial Response - Loraine Boettner
An Amillennial Response - Anthony A. Hoekema
3. Postmillennialism - Loraine Boettner
A Historical Premillennial Response - George Eldon Ladd
A Dispensational Premillennial Response - Herman A. Hoyt
An Amillennial Response - Anthony A. Hoekema
4. Amillennialism - Anthony A. Hoekema
A Historical Premillennial Response - George Eldon Ladd
A Dispensational Premillennial Response - Herman A. Hoyt
A Postmillennial Response - Loraine Boettner
Postscript - Robert G. Clouse
I have recently bought this book which was recommended by a friend who is a reformed Presbyterian Pastor. I have not read it yet, but hope to when I get a chance.
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RE: Reformed Theology Chat Thread - 2010 edition - 7/14/2010 10:45:08 AM
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doinkdom
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that might be it...the cover is different but they tend to change them periodically anyway.
4 views of the millennium is the title so it might be the same book and what you wrote seems to be the same too as far as content.
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RE: Reformed Theology Chat Thread - 2010 edition - 7/14/2010 11:41:50 AM
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ShallbeRebuilt
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yum. That book looks like it would be very fun to read!
I'm currently reading one on another subject--church polity--which my pastor loaned me. It has 4 views also, but there are no responses from the other views.
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RE: Reformed Theology Chat Thread - 2010 edition - 7/14/2010 1:46:23 PM
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Jeffriesw
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Cool!
Yeah i am one of the few natives left around my area. I was at Bible study last Saturday morning and I was the only one at the table actually from Here. (Dade City area)
Matter as a fact my Avatar is on top of one of the main two piers (450+ feet) that support the Sunshine Skyway bridge that runs from manatee county up into St. Pete (I-275). I did a repair job out there 6 years ago.
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RE: Reformed Theology Chat Thread - 2010 edition - 7/14/2010 1:49:39 PM
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doinkdom
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I love watching the little manta rays from the skyway.
We go by way of Hwy. 41 down that way to fish when we're downwith family.
Anyways....WELCOME!
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RE: Reformed Theology Chat Thread - 2010 edition - 7/14/2010 4:11:25 PM
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shemaromans
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Well, well.
Surprise, surprise.
I'm actually looking forward to church tomorrow!
I thought it would take a LOT longer than this.
hmmmm....should I be worried?
shallbe
Update? How did it go?
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RE: Reformed Theology Chat Thread - 2010 edition - 7/14/2010 4:23:23 PM
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ShallbeRebuilt
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It went fine, Shema; thanks for asking. Although, I did roll my eyes a bit when this pastor suggested that the final Anti-Christ just might be the pope. Up until now I haven't caught him in any eisegesis, but that seemed pushing the scripture too far.
I give him the benefit of the doubt...he IS preaching through Daniel, and it's hard to avoid those sorts of things when dealing with the last chapters.
I met with he and his wife for lunch the other day, too. The only thing he said that gave me pause was that he wanted a church that was as close to the New Testament church as possible.
Well...I'll have to ask him the first of the 4 Killer Questions on that one. "What do you mean by New Testament Church?", iykwim. The New Testament church had A LOT to learn. I'm hoping we've learned from their mistakes and can move on.
I will be glad when we can incorporate a few of the scripturally sound and musically excellent contemporary worship music, but that is a small matter, comparatively.
We are still carefully scoping this church out. We would appreciate any prayers offered for our protection and guidance as we do so.
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RE: Reformed Theology Chat Thread - 2010 edition - 7/14/2010 7:11:39 PM
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gralan
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Always Reforming!
I'm enjoying the updates shallbe.
I enjoyed reading "Worthy is the Lamb" by Ray Summers. It is a good examination of Revelation in its historical setting.
I've read The meaning of the Millennium. That was nicely done as well.
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RE: Reformed Theology Chat Thread - 2010 edition - 7/16/2010 6:21:38 PM
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billbaileybfafan
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It's not an endtimes book, but I am about to tackle Piper's "The Justification of God". Has anyone here read that one?
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RE: Reformed Theology Chat Thread - 2010 edition - 7/16/2010 8:15:47 PM
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shemaromans
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It's not an endtimes book, but I am about to tackle Piper's "The Justification of God". Has anyone here read that one?
No, I haven't. Please let us know what you think about it when you finish reading it.
I'm going to start "Justification" by Turretin, probably in mid-to-late August.
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RE: Reformed Theology Chat Thread - 2010 edition - 7/18/2010 10:42:25 AM
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Can I be what you might call 3 point, and still fellowship with y'all?
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but I sure didn't appreciate the tone of the book at all. 
If I don't remain exactly as I am on our wedding day, then my husband will have an affair. I found that book did nothing but harm most couples, leaving them paranoid and suspicious of one another. 
